Comments on: First Time On Pavement http://blog.chrisboorman.com/2007/03/23/first-time-on-pavement/ Bob Dylan, Investing, Marathon Running and More! Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:49:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Tom Polen http://blog.chrisboorman.com/2007/03/23/first-time-on-pavement/#comment-57 Tom Polen Sat, 31 Mar 2007 05:06:15 +0000 http://blog.chrisboorman.com/2007/03/23/first-time-on-pavement/#comment-57 Since I know nothing about the science of running, I'll have to agree that Scott's statements are likely/plausible... change of surface is killer. In fact, going from pavement (99% of my running) to softer surfaces is brutal for me (reference: Grove City X-country on grass versus suburban NJ XC on pavement). Definitely go heavy on calcium. Buy a second pair of the same shoes (alternate workouts) and get rid of them at 500 miles or a year (a set calendar time is too vague). Go Jedi and get a different brand/size/type for your second pair. Like Scott, I run in Asics... the best shoes are the ones you're putting mileage on.My reasoning for the asics is the softer rubber compound on the outer surface. My unique bio-mechanics suffer with any degree of slippage. Mind you, I don't pretend to give advice (in other words, ignore this post). My trade for that is I don't take advice from anyone... except for Yannis Kouros or John Geesler, both of whom I've had the pleasure of competing with. TRP Since I know nothing about the science of running, I’ll have to agree that Scott’s statements are likely/plausible… change of surface is killer. In fact, going from pavement (99% of my running) to softer surfaces is brutal for me (reference: Grove City X-country on grass versus suburban NJ XC on pavement). Definitely go heavy on calcium. Buy a second pair of the same shoes (alternate workouts) and get rid of them at 500 miles or a year (a set calendar time is too vague). Go Jedi and get a different brand/size/type for your second pair. Like Scott, I run in Asics… the best shoes are the ones you’re putting mileage on.My reasoning for the asics is the softer rubber compound on the outer surface. My unique bio-mechanics suffer with any degree of slippage.

Mind you, I don’t pretend to give advice (in other words, ignore this post). My trade for that is I don’t take advice from anyone… except for Yannis Kouros or John Geesler, both of whom I’ve had the pleasure of competing with.

TRP

]]> By: scott gillis http://blog.chrisboorman.com/2007/03/23/first-time-on-pavement/#comment-55 scott gillis Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:33:03 +0000 http://blog.chrisboorman.com/2007/03/23/first-time-on-pavement/#comment-55 As far as the pain in your legs, I can tell you what you in all liklihood are experiencing. Bones, over time, tend to adjust their density to the amount of shock they are subjected to. There are "microtears" happening during the course of running from the impact of a no-give surface. The treadmill, while maintaining your cardio capabilities, has better suspension on it than my first car did which allows for a significant amount of shock absorption through the machine itself. As you have already come to realize, pavement is not nearly as forgiving. You're in new england, some public school or another is bound to have a rubber-paved track which would make for a decent transition place going from treadmill to pavement. A combined 16 years of army sports medicine has taught me this. Maintain a good calcium level in your diet (coral based over lactose based) and you'll notice a marked improvement shortly thereafter. Running shoes should be turned over every 6 months. Also have your arch checked to see how high it is to get the best shoe for you. For instance, when I could run, asics were it for me. Gel didn't expand in hot conditions like nike airs and the arch on most models. Had the right arch support for me. This will cut down on the harshness of the adjustment your bones will have to make. As far as the pain in your legs, I can tell you what you in all liklihood are experiencing. Bones, over time, tend to adjust their density to the amount of shock they are subjected to. There are “microtears” happening during the course of running from the impact of a no-give surface. The treadmill, while maintaining your cardio capabilities, has better suspension on it than my first car did which allows for a significant amount of shock absorption through the machine itself. As you have already come to realize, pavement is not nearly as forgiving. You’re in new england, some public school or another is bound to have a rubber-paved track which would make for a decent transition place going from treadmill to pavement. A combined 16 years of army sports medicine has taught me this. Maintain a good calcium level in your diet (coral based over lactose based) and you’ll notice a marked improvement shortly thereafter. Running shoes should be turned over every 6 months. Also have your arch checked to see how high it is to get the best shoe for you. For instance, when I could run, asics were it for me. Gel didn’t expand in hot conditions like nike airs and the arch on most models. Had the right arch support for me. This will cut down on the harshness of the adjustment your bones will have to make.

]]> By: Tom Polen http://blog.chrisboorman.com/2007/03/23/first-time-on-pavement/#comment-54 Tom Polen Sat, 24 Mar 2007 04:03:43 +0000 http://blog.chrisboorman.com/2007/03/23/first-time-on-pavement/#comment-54 Dude, get a Garmin Forerunner 201, 205, 301, or 305. I use the ancient 201. It logs everything I do. I don't micromanage with it, but I use it for "passive logging" rather than having to think about it. You can mate it with a PC (but it ain't gonna work with yo' linux). I run loops, too - it will do just fine for you. EXTREMELY accurate, and more data than you can handle. TRP Dude, get a Garmin Forerunner 201, 205, 301, or 305. I use the ancient 201. It logs everything I do. I don’t micromanage with it, but I use it for “passive logging” rather than having to think about it. You can mate it with a PC (but it ain’t gonna work with yo’ linux). I run loops, too - it will do just fine for you. EXTREMELY accurate, and more data than you can handle.

TRP

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